DC Cookie

Wednesday, August 03, 2005

Harry and Sally

Can an attractive single woman and an attractive single man really be friends? It’s the on-going ‘When Harry met Sally’ argument, and I’m going to side with Billy Crystal on this one. If they’re both attractive people, and both uncommitted (for the sake of avoiding a discussion of infidelity, about which I’m extremely opinionated), one or the other is bound to have a crush. Sure, both people can ‘say’ they’re friends, but underneath, one of them is hoping something more will come out of it, whether that’s a relationship or just a romp in the sack.

I hesitate when a single girlfriend says to me “you HAVE to meet my gorgeous, awesome friend X. He’s fabulous, you’ll love him.” That doesn’t make sense! The problem with this statement is, if he’s so fabulous, then she probably wants him, but is pretending not to because they both exist momentarily under the guise of ‘friendship.’ Why would I want to go after a guy that my friend already likes? Either that, or he’s not ‘really’ as fabulous as she says he is and I won’t be interested. It’ll just be another guy that I have to 82nd Airborne when I go out with him.

Here are some examples of classic ‘you’re not really friends but pretending to be’ statements (all of which I’ve heard at some point):
  • “I’m going up to NYC to see my friend Y. I’m spending the weekend at his house, but it’s totally cool. Nothing will happen because we’re just friends.” (B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T. She’s playing the dumb, naïve, school-girl role but knows deep down she’s going because she wants him).
  • “I would never go there…we’ve been friends forever.” (C-R-A-P. They’ve been friends forever because she’s wanted him forever).
  • “We dated for a little while and it didn’t work out, but I’m really enjoying our new-found friendship.” (L-I-A-R. She’s just biding her time before she has another opportunity to date him).

Seriously, think about it. It’s a fundamental theory of the rules of attraction: Hot single girl + hot single guy = sexual tension. They can act like friends all they want, but deep down, their animal instinct is telling them to get naked.

21 Comments:

  • At August 03, 2005 12:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I'm sure most will disagree with me, but I have four longstanding male friendships, and I have never considered following through to change that status. This is not to say pressure (quasi-jokingly) hasn't been applied in the past to alter that, but over time, the "why don't we" has given way to just friendship. There is always sexual teasing going on, but that's what makes it fun, no?

     
  • At August 03, 2005 12:02 PM, Blogger Kathryn Is So Over said…

    I disagree. Me & JB.

     
  • At August 03, 2005 12:09 PM, Blogger DC Cookie said…

    Another example: Me and E were solid friends for 4 years before I hooked him up with my sister. Both attractive people, neither one attracted to the other. Happens, but certainly not the norm.

    There are exceptions to the rule, but for the most part, you have to agree with me.

     
  • At August 03, 2005 12:19 PM, Blogger A Unique Alias said…

    I would say that overall you're right on. My friend who is coming out next week, though, is young, attractive, single, and all-around great.

    But living together for a year in a small apartment and a high-tension relationship . . . we're way too familiar with each other now for there to be any attraction. We're like sister and brother.

     
  • At August 03, 2005 12:34 PM, Blogger Johnny said…

    once they are mature and erectile disfunction has kicked in yes.
    or both hearts have been broken.
    or they're both quadriplegics.

    ??
    im just saying!

    :)

     
  • At August 03, 2005 3:13 PM, Blogger DC Cookie said…

    Two thoughts. 1. if the guy is 'not your type' then it's very possible he's not attractive (which is a requirement of my 'rule'). 2. if he thinks about you sexually even if you don't think about him sexually, rule still stands.

    There are exceptions, but again...rare.

     
  • At August 03, 2005 3:45 PM, Blogger Asian Mistress said…

    I think that as sexual beings, you have to wonder at some point.

    I have guy friends I am just friends with. But it's cause I'm not attracted to them at all.

    I have guys I'm just friends with. But that's because I'm waiting/wishing/hoping to get with them or they are waiting/wishing/hoping to get with me.

    I agree with AUA though...that sometimes you just become too close. You know too much. The mystery and the idea of "what if" is not there.

    Sethj - ouch, tricky situation. Once you have been physical, it's hard to go back to anything else - whether it's moving towards friends or moving towards relationship. Good luck!

     
  • At August 03, 2005 3:50 PM, Blogger DC Cookie said…

    Sean: Classic example. If you have a physical relationship, regardless of who breaks it off, I believe the sexual tension will always exist even if you never act on it again. Sure, she might say she's okay being friends, but she'll think about you as more than that until she finds someone else to distract her (and is no longer single).

     
  • At August 03, 2005 3:51 PM, Blogger DC Cookie said…

    Um...if I didn't have the attention span of a 2 year old, I would have realized your name was Seth...sorry!

     
  • At August 03, 2005 4:08 PM, Blogger John Chimpo said…

    I think it is possible but infrequent. There are probably, as you said always unrequited feelings from one end or both. But as time passes, the two in question tend to realize that friendship is what they are good at, and should stick to.

    /that being said, I've ended up sleeping with a fair amount of friends, so what the hell do I know?

     
  • At August 03, 2005 4:24 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    At first I was going to disagree with you...but then I thought about my friendships with some of my guy friends...and you are right.
    Although, I do have some male friends that I am not interested in..but that is because they are not my type.

     
  • At August 03, 2005 4:34 PM, Blogger Adam said…

    I think the sexual tension makes the relationship fun...sure, slightly awkward at times...but fun...what about when the girl tells the guy that she wants to set him up with one of her 'hot georgous friends'?

     
  • At August 03, 2005 4:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    The cookie is correct! period. end of discussion. Unless...;)

     
  • At August 03, 2005 4:45 PM, Blogger DC Cookie said…

    If girl says that, then she's not feeling you, or she's just trying to pretend she's cool with 'just being friends' when really she wants to bang you. I've said the same thing to a bunch of guys I have the hots for who are 'just friends.' Only because I know I can't do anything about the existing sexual tension for the time being. Whatever...we'd never say anything like that if we thought we had a chance with you...

     
  • At August 03, 2005 7:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    99.9% friends still leaves a 0.1% chance.....woohoo

    ;-)

     
  • At August 03, 2005 7:52 PM, Blogger The Boy said…

    Cookie-Go for it.

     
  • At August 04, 2005 9:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I disagree only when you know someone VERY well. I know this guy - he is hot and nice and so not for me. Therefore, he can be my very good friend b/c I will NEVER want that from him. I know him too well:)

     
  • At August 04, 2005 9:52 AM, Blogger DC Cookie said…

    Anon: You sure he feels the same way about you and isn't thinking that maybe one day... Exceptions to any rule, but if you look at ALL your guy friends cumulatively, I bet you'd see my point.

     
  • At August 04, 2005 1:09 PM, Blogger Johnny said…

    btw, my natural instinct, and i think most men agree with me, is to shag everyone.

    take no prisoners!

    so it takes a lot to overcome that natural instinct, see?

     
  • At August 11, 2005 3:48 PM, Blogger Mamma Bear said…

    Hmm I have to agree with you DCC. I have either had a small crush on my male friends or they have had at least "Friends with benefits" interests in me. Men and women are sexual creatures. We may *say* we are friends, but deep down someone wants something more. :)

     
  • At October 04, 2005 3:46 PM, Blogger "B" said…

    You left out one scenario...I have a couple of guy friends I dated and keep around, I keep them around because I enjoy their company and I'm attracted to them.. so when I deal with a breakup and need some "attention/hookup"--I can count on them. and there is no drama because it's understood. so even though I wouldn't date them, it still supports your theory...just one more reason that there is no such thing as "just friends."

     

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